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Episode 38: Super Bowl LX and the all-star crew

A look at some stories from the 2025 season and how Shawn Smith’s crew handled the big game

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On the season finale of the 1st & 25 podcast, we looked at how Shawn Smith and his all-star crew did in Super Bowl LX.

We also discussed the effect of the dynamic kickoffs over the past 2 seasons, how digital measurements worked this year, a plea for an enforcement change on sideline interference, a changing a guard in the NFL officiating elite, and the number of ejections this season.

To end the season, we have our all-star crew at the roundtable: Ben Austro, Mark Schultz, Cam Filipe, Chris Seubert, and Pat Weber have the discussion.

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The postseason assignments can be found here: Wild Card | Divisional | Conference Championships | Super Bowl LX

A list of ejections is maintained by our partner site Quirky Research.

What was said between coach Mike Vrabel and side judge Eugene Hall? We have Jomboy to thank for the breakdown.

This play was a correct no-call by third-year field judge Jason Ledet.

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Ben Austro is the editor and founder of Football Zebras and the author of So You Think You Know Football?: The Armchair Ref's Guide to the Official Rules (on sale now)

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