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		<title>3 confusing calls in Sunday night game</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ben Austro</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Week 14: Eagles at Giants
We have three calls for analysis—all three called correctly—from the Eagles–Giants game that will likely end up on this week&#8217;s &#8220;Official Review.&#8221; View the highlights of the game in addition to our analysis:
McNabb incomplete or fumble?
On a second-and-10 from the Eagles 42, Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb is hit with the ball [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3>Week 14: Eagles at Giants</h3>
<p>We have three calls for analysis—all three called correctly—from the Eagles–Giants game that will likely end up on this week&#8217;s &#8220;Official Review.&#8221; <a href="http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d814f3872/NFL-GameDay-Eagles-vs-Giants-highlights" target="_blank">View the highlights</a> of the game in addition to our analysis:</p>
<h4>McNabb incomplete or fumble?</h4>
<p>On a second-and-10 from the Eagles 42, Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb is hit with the ball going forward. The ball was nearly caught out of the air by the Giants and rolled dead (1:24 into <a href="http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d814f3872/NFL-GameDay-Eagles-vs-Giants-highlights" target="_blank">highlight reel</a>). Confusion reigned, as the ball was spotted 10 yards back following the play. Here is what each official ruled on the play:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<div id="attachment_822" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-822" title="mcnabb fumble" src="http://www.footballzebras.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/mcnabb-fumble-300x187.png" alt="Credit: NFL/NBC Sports" width="300" height="187" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Credit: NFL/NBC Sports</p></div>
<p>Referee John Parry considered it a forward fumble by (A) tossing a beanbag marker to show the spot of the fumble.</li>
<li>After the ball hit the ground and as it rolled to a stop, umpire Dan Ferrell assumed a &#8220;hovering&#8221; position (B) anticipating a recovery and a possible pileup on the loose ball.</li>
<li>The line judge, Ron Marinucci, covering a possible interception, ruled it incomplete (C). However, since McNabb&#8217;s hand was empty as it was coming forward, it should not have been ruled incomplete. But, once an incomplete pass is called, the play is dead at that point—although if there was an immediate recovery by the Giants after the incomplete call, it would have been Giants possession at the dead-ball spot.</li>
<li>The replay official could not call for a review because no player picked up the loose ball as the play was killed.</li>
</ul>
<p>In this case, two rules come into play, with the applicable rule/section/article:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>7–4–2.</em> If a loose ball comes to rest anywhere in field and no player attempts to recover, official covering the play should pause momentarily before signaling dead ball (official’s time out).</p>
<p><em>8–7–6. </em>If a fumble by either team occurs after the two-minute warning &#8230; (b) The player who fumbled is the only player of his team who is permitted to recover and advance the ball. (c) If the recovery or catch is by a teammate of the player who fumbled, the ball is dead, and the spot of the next snap is the spot of the fumble.</p></blockquote>
<p>With no one recovering the ball, loosely this translated to an Eagles recovery, as they retain possession. Therefore, they were given the ball at the spot of the fumble, 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage.</p>
<h4>Fumble recovery at 2 seconds?</h4>
<p>On a kickoff return, the Giants fumbled with a recovery by Moise Fokou of the Eagles as the first half expired, but with the aid of the television replay, approximately two seconds remained in the second quarter (no video available).  So why were the Eagles denied the possibility of a field goal to end the half?</p>
<ul>
<li>The replay official cannot intervene in a solely clock-based call or for a fumble recovery in the field of play.</li>
<li>A fumble recovery does not immediately kill the clock. There has to be evidence of a recovery or a significant pileup of players to blow the play dead. By examining the replay, we are able to get the snapshot, but an official would be irresponsible to immediately blow the whistle. What if the ball were to somehow squirt out after the official called it dead?</li>
<li>When the play is ruled dead, the line judge (primarily) is responsible for seeing that the clock is stopped in a reasonable manner. This could cause a delay, and, as is often noted, <em>may </em>go in the favor of the home team on occasion. (We cannot back that assertion up with anything statistical, but prove us wrong if you can point us to evidence.) This delay also is seen when the play clock runs to zero: there is usually a &#8220;beat&#8221; before officials throw a flag, because their eyes can&#8217;t observe both at the same time.</li>
</ul>
<h4>Manning&#8217;s fumble not down by contact</h4>
<p>Giants quarterback Eli Manning, while scrambling for a 15-yard gain, went into a forward dive and lost the ball as he contacted the turf (<a href="http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d814f3872/NFL-GameDay-Eagles-vs-Giants-highlights" target="_blank">video</a> is at 2:50). This was ruled a fumble, as Manning was not contacted as he dove forward. The ground cannot cause a fumble when a player goes down by contact (which can be as little as a defensive player&#8217;s finger).</p>
<p>The replay review <em>could</em> have made a compelling case for the fact that Manning had his jersey grabbed, which caused him to go down. Counting the number of steps is not entirely relevant; if a player stumbles ten steps down the field after contact, it is still down by contact.</p>
<p>But, &#8220;could&#8221; is not good enough, as Parry was looking for &#8220;indisputable visual evidence,&#8221; and so the play, correctly, stands. But in an alternate universe, this play has two different outcomes:</p>
<ul>
<li>I think, had the play been called down by contact by virtue of the jersey tug, that there would not have been indisputable visual evidence to dispute <em>that</em> call.</li>
<li>Had Manning slid feet first, he would have taken advantage of a dead-ball ruling, which would have <em>not</em> resulted in a fumble had he dropped the ball upon hitting the ground:</li>
</ul>
<blockquote><p><em>7–4–1. </em>An official shall declare dead ball and the down ended: &#8230; (c) whenever a runner declares himself down by sliding feet first on the ground. The ball is dead at the spot of the ball at the instant the runner so touches the ground.</p></blockquote>
<h4>Also notable</h4>
<p>Trent Cole was ejected with five seconds remaining in the game for throwing a punch. While there were offsetting personal fouls, a disqualification is never withdrawn because of offsetting penalties.</p>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 363px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">If a fumble by either team occurs after<br />
the two-minute warning:<br />
(a) The ball may be advanced by any opponent.<br />
(b) The player who fumbled is the only player of his team who is permitted to recover<br />
and advance the ball.<br />
(c) If the recovery or catch is by a teammate of the player who fumbled, the ball is dead,<br />
and the spot of the next snap is the spot of the fumble, or the spot of the recovery<br />
if the spot of the recovery is behind the spot of the fumble.If a fumble by either team occurs after<br />
the two-minute warning:<br />
(a) The ball may be advanced by any opponent.<br />
(b) The player who fumbled is the only player of his team who is permitted to recover<br />
and advance the ball.<br />
(c) If the recovery or catch is by a teammate of the player who fumbled, the ball is dead,<br />
and the spot of the next snap is the spot of the fumble, or the spot of the recovery<br />
if the spot of the recovery is behind the spot of the fumble.</div>
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		<title>Incorrect spot in end-of-regulation scramble could&#8217;ve impacted playoff race</title>
		<link>http://www.footballzebras.com/2009/11/30/730</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ben Austro</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Week 12: Steelers at Ravens
With only moments to think, officials can make decisions based on digesting a 115-page rulebook. On average, 98% of the time they get it right. When there is an error it could have an impact on the game. When divisional foes meet, it could have an impact on the playoffs.
In all [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3>Week 12: Steelers at Ravens</h3>
<p>With only moments to think, officials can make decisions based on digesting a 115-page rulebook. On average, <a href="http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2009/09/timespicayune_analysis_of_last.html" target="_blank">98% of the time</a> they get it right. When there is an error it could have an impact on the game. When divisional foes meet, it could have an impact on the playoffs.</p>
<p>In all fairness, though, even if a bad call occurs, there usually are several opportunities that the affected team did not take advantage of. Much like the weather, the officiating is an element of the game mostly out of the team&#8217;s control, but something good teams adapt to.</p>
<p>While most errors are inexcusable, this one has some mitigating circumstances. However, the call is still wrong, and mitigating circumstances do not help officials in their evaluations which determine playoff assignments.</p>
<div id="attachment_735" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 100px"><a href="http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81498575/Flacco-sacked-FG-missed"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-735" title="fgspot" src="http://www.footballzebras.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/fgspot-150x150.jpg" alt="fgspot" width="90" height="90" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Video of fumble and field goal attempt at NFL.com</p></div>
<p>In a hard-fought divisional game between the Ravens were within long field-goal range against the Steelers near the end of regulation. On third and 9 from the Steelers 34, Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco fumbled the ball at the 42, which was recovered by the Ravens at the 37 with 18 seconds remaining. Out of timeouts, the clock was running while a fire-drill substitution of the field-goal personnel ensued.</p>
<p>Headlinesman Mark Hittner came in to mark the dead ball spot at the 37. While that was the correct <em>dead-ball</em> spot, the Ravens should have gotten the ball at the 42, the spot of the fumble. (The responsibility for the spot goes to the head referee, officially.) <em>Sunday Night Football</em> announcer Al Michaels, after the fact, did call attention to this.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>NFL Rulebook 8–7–6:</em> If a fumble by either team occurs after the two-minute warning:</p>
<p>(a) The ball may be advanced by any opponent.</p>
<p>(b) The player who fumbled is the only player of his team who is permitted to recover and advance the ball.</p>
<p>(c) If the recovery or catch is by a teammate of the player who fumbled, the ball is dead, and the spot of the next snap is the spot of the fumble, or the spot of the recovery if the spot of the recovery is behind the spot of the fumble.</p></blockquote>
<p>Fortunately for Ed Hochuli&#8217;s crew, the field goal attempt was two yards short.</p>
<p>I do seem to remember a game in the last five years or so where the ball was spotted incorrectly before a field goal. (I&#8217;m looking for it; if you remember, put it in the comments.) Having realized the mistake, the officials wiped out the down, respotted the ball, and the field goal was taken five yards closer. Had there been a field goal from 56 yards, you can imagine the uproar if the officials salted the down to respot for a 61-yard field goal.</p>
<p>So while there was a major error, there are other circumstances that need to be considered:</p>
<ul>
<li>If there was a conference regarding the spot of the ball, Hochuli would have had to call an official&#8217;s timeout. This would have given the Ravens time to line up a field goal, which (we&#8217;ll never know) <em>could</em> have been an advantage on a 61-yard field-goal attempt.</li>
<li>During the mass substitution, officials had to count that there were 11 players on the field. (Offense is counted by the umpire, line judge and headlinesman; defense by the side judge, field judge and back judge.)</li>
<li>The field judge and back judge had to position themselves under the uprights for the kick.</li>
<li>The line judge and headlinesman were watching for the offense to be set for a full second prior to a snap.</li>
<li>The headlinesman was on the Steelers sideline, so it was possible that the coach could have signaled a timeout prior to the kick.</li>
</ul>
<p>However, as the vice-president of officiating will probably tell us in his weekly &#8220;Official Review&#8221; video, having too much to think about is not an acceptable excuse. Fortunately, the spot of the ball did not have a determination on the final score or playoff seedings.</p>
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		<title>Cards&#8217; final play, again, evades replay review</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 02:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ben Austro</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Week 1: 49ers at Cardinals
It seems the Arizona Cardinals cannot finish a game without a controversial call on the last play of the game. In the first outing following the controversial game-ending fumble in Super Bowl XLIII, the Cardinals found themselves, again, in a last-second desperation call.
With eight seconds left in the 49ers–Cardinals game (video [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3>Week 1: 49ers at Cardinals</h3>
<p>It seems the Arizona Cardinals cannot finish a game without a controversial call on the last play of the game. In the first outing following the <a href="/2009/02/02/5" target="_blank">controversial game-ending fumble in Super Bowl XLIII</a>, the Cardinals found themselves, again, in a last-second desperation call.</p>
<p>With eight seconds left in the 49ers–Cardinals game (<a href="http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d812977cc/49ers-Cardinals-highlights">video highlight</a> at 2:10), the Cardinals needed 54 yards for a touchdown. Quarterback Kurt Warner was sacked with three seconds; the ball was fumbled and rolled out of bounds as time expired.</p>
<p>An interesting development arose, as the players (most visibly kicker Joe Nedney) entered onto the field with three seconds left with a live, loose ball. The play, <a href="http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/54477/ARZ_Gamebook.pdf" target="_blank">according to the gamebook</a>, did not end until the ball went out of bounds. Therefore, there were more than 11 players on the field.</p>
<div id="attachment_179" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 220px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-179" title="49ers-clock" src="http://www.zebra.benaustro.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/49ers-clock-300x219.png" alt="49ers bench enters the field during a live ball with 2 seconds remaining. Credit: NFL/Fox Sports" width="210" height="153" /><p class="wp-caption-text">49ers bench enters the field during a live ball with 2 seconds remaining. Credit: NFL/Fox Sports</p></div>
<p>Nedney, although near the ball, did not interfere with the play. Because the fumble was after the two-minute warning, only Warner (the fumbler) could legally recover for the Cardinals. So there was clearly no way the Cardinals had a chance to recover. But, by the letter of the rules, it is an illegal substitution, which would have been a 5-yard penalty and an untimed down for the Cardinals. A replay review could have been initiated, as the number of personnel is a reviewable call. It could not be challenged since there was less than two minutes.</p>
<h3>Flashback: Browns at Chiefs, Week 1, 2002</h3>
<p>This may appear to be overreaching, as players believed the play to be over and did not interfere with the play. But, that did not factor in an unsportsmanlike conduct call in the <a href="http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/18099/CLV_Gamebook.pdf" target="_blank">2002 Browns–Chiefs opening day game</a>. When Chiefs quarterback Trent Green was swarmed under with the clock showing 0:00, it appeared that the game was over. Dwayne Rudd of the Browns removed his helmet in celebration, not realizing that Green lateraled the ball to lineman John Tait, who was tackled at the 25-yard line.</p>
<p>Although Rudd thought the play was over, and did not have any affect on the play, he was nonetheless flagged for removing his helmet, which extended the quarter by an untimed down for the Chiefs&#8217; game-winning field goal.</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s game was officiated by Don Carey&#8217;s crew (his first as referee); Lloyd McPeters was the replay official.</p>
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